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| 09:11:44 | larsbot | hi there, drrho |
| 09:12:00 | drrho | hio larsbot! |
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| 11:56:28 | Xabby77 | hello and thanks larsbot for yesterday |
| 12:02:10 | Xabby77 | http://www.webalice.it/piero.crisci/export.tedc |
| 12:02:21 | Xabby77 | this is the export from ontopoly |
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| 12:53:10 | Xabby77 | hello again := |
| 12:53:11 | Xabby77 | :) |
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| 16:30:51 | lheuer | Moin there! :) |
| 16:31:18 | larsbot | hi there, other Lars |
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| 16:38:04 | Xabby77 | hi lars |
| 16:38:09 | Xabby77 | hi lheuer |
| 16:38:31 | lheuer | Hi Xabby77! :) |
| 16:38:39 | lheuer | Hi other Lars, hi all ;) |
| 16:39:02 | Xabby77 | lasr i posted also the link for the xtm file where the are also the definition of the role scope topic and association |
| 16:39:55 | Xabby77 | A question, is possible to convert the RDF to Topic Maps and viceversa? or is just a chimera? |
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| 16:41:32 | larsbot | hi Xabby77 |
| 16:41:35 | larsbot | it's definitely possible |
| 16:41:38 | larsbot | you can do it with Omnigator |
| 16:41:46 | larsbot | there's even a UI for RDF -> TM |
| 16:41:58 | Xabby77 | oh you got the link? |
| 16:42:21 | larsbot | you have to download it |
| 16:42:22 | larsbot | but there's a page about it |
| 16:42:22 | Xabby77 | oh no matter is in OKS right? |
| 16:42:36 | larsbot | yes |
| 16:42:39 | larsbot | look here: http://www.knowledge-synergy.com/topicmaps/document/rdf-browsing-en.html |
| 16:42:51 | larsbot | you don't have to turn on the plug-in the way that page says, but otherwise it's accurate |
| 16:42:59 | Xabby77 | really nice |
| 16:43:43 | Xabby77 | so the advantage to cross from a format to another is the interoperability? am i right? |
| 16:45:30 | larsbot | yes |
| 16:45:48 | larsbot | although you could say that to go from one format to another *is* interoperability |
| 16:47:28 | Xabby77 | so if you can go from topic maps to rdf you can also use owl on the rdf file you got from topic maps? |
| 16:47:40 | Xabby77 | or is just for the same label |
| 16:49:28 | larsbot | sure, you can use OWL on that RDF |
| 16:49:40 | larsbot | it will be normal RDF, just like if you'd typed it in yourself |
| 16:51:43 | Xabby77 | ok i understand, but is also possible the same? i mean is possible convert a RDF file with a schema in a Topic Maps? |
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| 16:52:58 | larsbot | yes, it's possible to do that conversion |
| 16:53:10 | larsbot | however, you'll need extra rules to turn an RDF Schema into a TM schema (OSL or whatever) |
| 16:53:18 | larsbot | the same goes for OWL, obviously |
| 16:54:49 | Xabby77 | ok but at moment the conversion from rdf to topic maps i as bit difficult because there is not a standard ....is it right? |
| 16:55:30 | larsbot | at the moment there is only the RTM method |
| 16:55:31 | larsbot | RTM: http://www.ontopia.net/topicmaps/materials/rdf2tm.html |
| 16:55:49 | larsbot | that's supported by the OKS (and Omnigator), and there is a half-finished open source implementation |
| 16:56:05 | larsbot | the W3C is working on a standard mapping that will probably come out this summer some time |
| 16:58:58 | lheuer | [OT] Sourceforge sucks :( |
| 16:59:17 | Xabby77 | so next question is .....supporting interoperability developing a TMCL and a TMQL will push the TM to rappresent the Knowledge as the Semantic Web with RDF+OWL now permit.....so why make another standard ?sorry i am a gestional engeneer so on my side is such a duplication of resource |
| 16:59:42 | lheuer | [OT] At least 2 weeks the CVS is not updated (for anonymous access) |
| 17:00:52 | lheuer | Xabby77: Since TMs and RDF is not the same thing, both camps have to do the work |
| 17:02:46 | larsbot | Xabby77: my answer to that is these four paragraphs: http://www.ontopia.net/topicmaps/materials/tmrdf.html#N68 |
| 17:02:50 | larsbot | :-) |
| 17:02:55 | larsbot | lheuer: :-( |
| 17:03:42 | Xabby77 | thx larsbot i am a bit confused at moment :) |
| 17:04:04 | larsbot | no worries :-) |
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