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| 09:14:07 | drrho | god morgen, larsbot |
| 09:15:05 | larsbot | gute morgen, drrho :) |
| 09:15:12 | larsbot | or is it "guten"? |
| 09:15:15 | drrho | close. |
| 09:15:20 | drrho | yes :-) |
| 09:15:23 | larsbot | ah |
| 09:15:26 | larsbot | got it in the end :) |
| 09:15:56 | drrho | * drrho wrestling with Xerces and Sleepycat to have it debianized.... |
| 09:16:26 | larsbot | * larsbot preparing interview questions to tease CMS requirements out of real users |
| 09:16:36 | larsbot | have been at it once already, and it's like pulling teeth |
| 09:16:50 | larsbot | except pulling teeth is probably much easier :) |
| 09:17:11 | drrho | Yeah, I have been consulting in this area in an earlier life. Brrr. |
| 09:17:30 | drrho | We used interrogation chambers and a lot of, uhm, cross-examination. |
| 09:17:51 | drrho | I.e. asking the same questions over and over again, in different ways. |
| 09:17:56 | drrho | Really helped. |
| 09:18:44 | larsbot | I keep telling them we can consider the first phase a trial phase |
| 09:18:56 | larsbot | if it doesn't scare them at least it's something to fall back on later :) |
| 09:19:47 | drrho | He, I had a customer who INSISTED on a certain constraint (in his data model). |
| 09:19:57 | drrho | He said: "This will never change!" |
| 09:20:14 | drrho | 5 hours before going live it changed :-0 |
| 09:26:05 | larsbot | urgh |
| 09:26:29 | larsbot | thankfully we have a good project manager, who works hard on setting customer expectations |
| 09:26:34 | larsbot | hopefully that will help |
| 09:26:37 | drrho | Well, we fixed it. This is what Perl has been invented for, I guess. |
| 09:26:53 | larsbot | we use Java, so we need a project manager ;-) |
| 09:27:16 | drrho | yes, Java w/o project managers = not good. |
| 09:28:39 | drrho | [ off ] apropos: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20060209.html |
| 09:28:54 | drrho | [ off ] and 2 followups |
| 09:29:14 | larsbot | the syntax is [off] :-) |
| 09:29:28 | drrho | ui. |
| 09:30:19 | larsbot | LOL :-) |
| 09:30:20 | larsbot | good one |
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| 13:16:04 | lheuer | Hi all! :) |
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